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 |  410 -- terry, 06/25/2001
What was a 410 ?? |
|  | Re: 410 -- John, 06/25/2001
It was a 390 bore with a 428 stroke. So, the 428 crank was used and special pistons were required because of the stroke change. |
| | | It's a MEL engine not a FE {n/m} -- Lou, 06/25/2001
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| | | | No - the 410 is all FE, from stem to stern. [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/25/2001
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| | | | | Both the FE and the MEL had a 410. -- Dave Shoe, 06/25/2001
The Edsel got the 410 MEL, the Merc got the 410 FE.
Shoe. |
| | | | |  | 410 MEL in '58 Edsel Corsair & Citation only n/m -- Barry B, 06/26/2001
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| | | | | RE: No - the 410 is all FE, from stem to stern. [n/m] -- terry, 06/26/2001
Thanks,I'm trying to buy a Edsel and it has a 410 |
| | | | RE: It's a MEL engine not a FE {n/m} -- 390 gt, 06/26/2001
The FE 410 was used in 66-67 Mercurys as an optional engine. The 410 pistons are still avail from aftermarket suppliers. As someone said a 390 or 360 block w/428 crank makes a 410. .030 over will give you 416 |
| | | Useed in Mercurys from 1966-1967 -- Styleline58, 06/25/2001
The 410 FE was used as the standard engine in the Mercury Parklane. It used standard 390 block, heads, rods, intake etc, with a standard 428 crank and 410-specific cast pistons. It was not a Hipo engine, but rather a smoot, torqey powerplant that made the Parklane a bit more special than a similar Ford, or lesser Merc, but did so without the lower production (and I assume costlier) 428 block. These days, the 410 is a great source of a 428 crank, but it will respond nicely to any mods you might want to make to a 390 and make more torque. If you find one cheap, don't pass it up. The crank, flexplate and damper are valuable as a set. The rest of the engine is just regular. |
|  | RE: 410 Marauders Mercury's high preformance engin -- RC Moser, 06/25/2001
410's were the brain child of Mercury's and carried the name Marauders. They were only factory produced in 66 and 67 and were painted blue with different valve covers (had lighting bolts on them) had 10-1 compression, 4100 carb. and shortie cast iron header type exhaust. Mercury also had 390 marauders that were red or red-orange with the different valve covers also. In 67 or 68 Mercury (Can't remember) introduced the 428 Marauder's which I feel made the 410 obsolute. As John said it had a 428 crank and it's own unique pistons. Which means you just can't throw a 428 crank and flywheel in a 390 and make a 410 cause the piston deck height will be out of the block and hit the heads. Other than that the are identical to a 390. 410's are good reliable engines it maintained correctly and produce good low end torque. |
| | | RE: 410 Marauders Mercury's high preformance engin -- 390 gt, 06/26/2001
You can use an aftmkt piston and take off approx .080 off top of piston. This will allow to achieve near zero deck and make up for the .100 at top end of stroke.
This is something I have don numerous times and works very well. another option is to use the 410 piston. I normally use the other so I can run a forged piston as 410 forged not avail |
| Exhaust leak noise at manifold -- Paul, 06/25/2001
I have a 352 and noticed a clicking upon acceleration to me what sounds like an exhaust leak at the manifold. The head bolt threads have been broken in half and the former owner used a bolt with a washer and nut on top to attach the exhaust manifold. I tightened the nut as much as I dare, but I still hear the clicking noise. Is there anything I can do to remedy this? |
| | RE: Exhaust leak noise at manifold -- Travis Miller, 06/25/2001
To verify that it is actually an exhaust leak, take a piece of heater hose and use it like a stethoscope. With it you will be able to hear exactly where the sound is coming from. This can also be used for tracing down other engine noises.
The right way to fix it is to have the exhaust manifold and the exhaust side of the head milled. I know that is not what you want to hear but if you try gaskets, they will burn out and you take a chance of breaking the manifold if pulled to tight. |
| 390 AT to MT question -- Jeremy Faulds, 06/25/2001
Hello all - I've determined that the engine I intend to put into my '68 Mustang (w/manual shift) is from a '67 Galaxy (w/automatic shift). I need to know what is going to have to be changed, ie. fly wheel,etc. since I'll be putting a 4 speed toploader on the back of an engine that originally had an automatic behind it.
thanks in advance. |
 | 68 fastback 428cj (NOT) so whats it worth now? -- Ken, 06/25/2001
Last week I asked about a 68 Fastback 428cj car. I was finaly able to talk to the owner (a used car lot) and see the car through a fence (they were closed.
The dealer said it was a 67 GT390 car with a 428cj engine, he wanted $17,500 but would come down on price.
I saw the car through a chain link fence, it was on a display rack. It has nice paint and all the GT markings and gas cap. It looks like new suspension with red poly bushings. It has front disk brakes and Torque thrust wheels. There were three chips in the paint ranging from 1" to 3" long where the hood meets the fenders and the cowl.
I will go back this week when they are open and get the vin # and check the car out better.
If it really is a GT390 and the running gear and interior are in good shape, how much would this car be worth? |
| Roller Kit for 390ci -- Boidman of ATL, 06/25/2001
Im currently in the process of having the 390 out of my 62 thunderbird removed for rebuilding and in looking thru magazines i may or may not have seen where crane advertised a roller kit for FE engines.Would this be true,or am i seeing things.If i am not,would this make an excellent upgrade for my 390.I am in no ways looking to remain completely original as i am not gonna build up a numbers matching concours trailer queen.This baby is gonna fly thru the streets with my big round taillights glowing.
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| | RE: Roller Kit for 390ci -- bear, 06/25/2001
Yes crane does sell a hydraulic roller cam shaft and lifters, but get ready for a skock when you look at the price tag for the lifters. Comp cams is also making rller lifters for FE's |
| | | RE: Roller Kit for 390ci -- mark, 07/01/2001
Many cam mfg's make retrofit roller cam setups
(hydraulic) for non-factory roller engines, but
for the hydraulic rollers they have to use a
reduced base circle cam because the lifters
are so tall. Only Crane makes special hydr roller
lifters that fit non-roller blocks. But, yes,
they're $$. About $400. www.cranecams.com |
| | | | RE: Roller Kit for 390ci -- ANT, 07/02/2001
run solid rollers |
| | | | | RE: Roller Kit for 390ci -- Boidman of Atl, 07/02/2001
I went to crane cams website and saw where they had the roller cam and other acessories available.I noticed that they start at 1963 for 390 engines and that the idle was listed as (fair).My next question is,would i give my sleeper image away by using this set up and will this set up work in a 1962 390. |
| | | | RE: Roller Kit for 390ci -- mark, 07/02/2001
Yes, I've noticed even the mildest of Crane's
rollers still tend to have somewhat high lift.
Now, 100 or 200 higher idle will sometimes
smoothen things out without most people noticing
that little difference in idle speed, and a decently quiet exhaust system also helps - like Walker dynomax turbo style mufflers which are quite free flowing yet quite quiet for a hp muffler - have them on my Lincoln LSC and you can
just hear the idle at the exhaust. Also check
isky, crower, lunati (at Holley) and compcams. I know some of them have some milder rollers than Crane when I was looking for a 351W. You might find a non-hydr roller that you could use Crane's hydr lifters on. (Matter of fact, I was doing some research for a warmed up 428 for a Cobra kit car and found a nice roller at Isky.) After all - solids clicking are a dead giveaway on a sleeper! Good luck. |
| so should I just replace them all? -- T1M, 06/25/2001
This is in regards to my post about the pushrods in my 68' Galaxies 390 2-V that I've stupidly mixed up in random order thinking it made no difference which lifter they sat on. Since I've mixed them up and there's no way to tell which went where..should I just get a whole new set and use them instead? |
| | That depends. Me, I'd buy new. [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/25/2001
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| | RE:I would also. -- RC Moser, 06/26/2001
I agree with Mr. F, I too would replace the pushrods and probably the lifters and inspect the rockers and bar for wear. Nothing more agrevating than a noisy valve train or a lifter colapsing. |
| | RE: so should I just replace them all? -- 390 gt, 06/26/2001
Depends on what else you have done to engine. Its an old wives tale you have to replace them or keep them in order. If ends are worn they should be replaced, if not leave them alone. Do not replace lifters without replacing cam as if lifters are worn so is cam. If lifters are not making noise it opens a can of worms to replace them and not cam. If lifters have been taken out of their bores and not kept in order they should be replace along with the cam |
| | | interesting counter opinion, thanks -- T1M, 06/26/2001
I'll check them tomorrow to see if any of the rods feel loose. Do you think I should run the engine with the valve covers off to see if they run ok? |
| | | | RE: interesting counter opinion, thanks -- matt, 06/26/2001
i think some people have to much time on there hands,trust me on this one you can mix up the pushrods all day long as long as they are not deformed (screwed up) and you can change lifters without changing the cam ( you think those used cams at swap meets have lifters with them?) just change out the bad pushrod make sure not to bind it this time and be happy spending only 5.00 besides if you listen to some of these fellows they will have you buy everything new. p.s. let me know if you need any more help, matt |
| | | | | Thanks for everyones input! I'd be lost without yo -- T1M, 06/26/2001
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| | | | | | RE: Thanks for everyones input! I'd be lost without yo -- mike, 06/27/2001
Check out this site ford-trucks.com it has an article called fe's that bend pushrods you can check it out under tech article. |
| | | RE: so should I just replace them all? -- Richard, 07/02/2001
"old wive's tale"?
Any engine part that is designed to mate and marry another is not interchangeable after they have seated. to do so is to invite premature wear on one or both of the parts...new or old. |
| 390 ci reliable? -- laurent, 06/24/2001
hello, i'm french and, in one month, i bying a mercury cougar 1969 convertible with the 390's engine.
but this engine is good or not good?
this big block is reliable or no? |
| | One of the best engines of all time (n/m) -- Ted, 06/24/2001
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| | | RE: One of the best engines of all time (n/m) -- mark, 07/01/2001
Well, let's no wax nostalgic, here. Yes, they're
reliable, but not beyond many other engines.
If you're not going to really abuse it, stock
form is plenty good. For high performance, there are weak points like the unsupported outside ends
of the rocker shafts and, in the standard 390's,
the oiling system needs improvements. For a typical mild street hop-up, no problem.
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| oil flow direction 390 -- robproulx, 06/23/2001
which of the two larger holes on the oil pump plate is out and which is in .I AM INSTALLING A REMOTE DOUBLE FILTER .thanks |
| | RE: oil flow direction 390 -- robproulx, 06/24/2001
Thanks |
| Mercury Help -- Jimbo, 06/22/2001
I know this is a tech forum, but I figured I'd ask you guys anyway. Does anybody know of a forum page or a parts page devoted to full-sized Mercs & Galaxies - something that you can buy & sell on? I'm trying to sell my 70 Monterey & keep hitting walls. Can anybody help? Thanks. Jimbo |
| 428 CJ pistons -- Mark Ellis, 06/21/2001
I recently acquired a 428 CJ.I am trying to find out what pistons are in it.The number stamped on the underside is 211-98c.Anyone with any info please email me.Thanks.
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