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 | Will cast iron 427 headers fit 63 Gal w/ps? -- Gary C, 06/07/2001
I got hold of a pair of 427 headers (C2AE9640-B & C3AE9461-D) and now I wonder if they will fit my 63 Galaxie 390 with power steering. Any advise before I try to stuff those heavy suckers in would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. |
|  | RE:Which tranny? -- Mike McQuesten, 06/08/2001
Yes Gary those particular exhaust manifolds should fit your '63 Galaxie. A friend has a '63 XL 390/4-speed(BW T-10) with factory power steering (resevoir mounted on the left/driver's side inner fender panel). Another friend(this is you John..)attempted to install these manifolds onto his 427 in a '61 Starliner with power steering. This car is also a 4-speed. However, he ran into interference with the power steering ram unit. He considered a modification to the ram bracket to lower it I believe but then he said just screw it, he's switching to manual steering. It had the shorty HP exhaust manifolds before and they fit fine with the PS and previous C-6CJ combination. But....which transmission do you have? Automatic with column shift control? Now you've got a little problem. You will not be able to shift the column lever into Park. I saw this exact thing in a '64 390 Galaxie. The guy felt the long HP exhaust manifolds were important enough that he didn't need Park. Just a good parking brake sytem with the car in Neutral for parking/starting. Stick shift? Should not have any problems. |
| |  | RE:Which tranny? -- Gary C, 06/08/2001
Thanks Mike, I've got a top-loader 4 speed, so it sounds like it will work OK. Gary BTW I thought I knew a lot about FE Fords and 60's Fords in general until I found this forum. You all keep up the good work. I have learned soooo much. Thanks all. |
| |  | RE:Which tranny? -- Mike McQuesten, 06/09/2001
You bet Gary. You'll have no problems with those great exhaust manifolds in your '63 and a 4 speed. Glad you have a top-loader and not a weak T-10. |
|  | RE: Will cast iron 427 headers fit 63 Gal w/ps? -- Jim Thomas, 11/16/2003
Gary, If you decide not to use the cast iron headers land want to sell them let me know. I guess the long 427 cast iron headers aren't for PS cars unless it is modified to clear the PS cylinder. Thanks, Jim jthomas427@sbcglobal.net |
 | parts list for '68 289 -- Doug, 06/07/2001
Looking for the parts # for a 68 289 engine: block, heads, intake manifold, and exhaust manifolds |
 | 428CJ carb ID -- Jeff H., 06/06/2001
I checked the carb id tag on the holley on my 428CJ and found a part number of C9AF-U. Is this a factory 428CJ holley(735 cfm)? If so is this the manual or automatic version? |
|  | RE: 428CJ carb ID -- John R. Barnes, 06/06/2001
Boss 429. Early version. John |
|  | RE: 428CJ carb ID -- Greg, 06/07/2001
According to my resources, that is a factory 428 CJ carb, part # C8OZ-9510-AA, from a manual trans with T/E.
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|  | And now for the real story... -- Mr F, 06/07/2001
I checked the carb id tag on the holley on my 428CJ and found a part number of C9AF-U.
To be accurate 'C9AF-U' is not a 'part number'. Rather, its a (shorthand) identifying code by which the dealer can look up the real part number, using a crossreference. Quite literally, they can't order a 'C9AF-U carburetor'.
Is this a factory 428CJ holley (735 cfm)?
Sorry, but no. You have an over-the-counter service part sold to fit many applications, including various 428CID engines. It saw no use as a factory' carb, whatsoever.
If so is this the manual or automatic version?
As a non-stock service part it is really neither 'automatic' nor 'manual.' But it does have the integral bellcrank needed for use with an A/T kick-down rod.
Mr F |
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 | FE block casting number -- John Saxon, 06/06/2001
Has anyone seen a block casting # of C2AE-E?Also the left front of the block where it nomally has 352 cast it has C2AE cast there.Any application info would be greatly appreciated. |
 | used cam/new lifters? -- John, 06/05/2001
Changing the block on my 428, I plan on reusing the solid lifter Crane cam (only 2000 miles on it and it looks OK) with new Crane solid lifters. Anybody see a problem with this? |
|  | RE: used cam/new lifters? -- ANDY, 06/05/2001
You can use the original lifters if you dont get them mixed up. Then you wont have to worry about cam break in again. |
|  | RE: used cam/new lifters? -- Ross, 06/06/2001
No problem, just dont recommend doing it the other way around |
 | 390 side oiler Question. -- Ray Figueroa, 06/05/2001
Does anyone know if the 390, 427, 428 engines use the same side oiler? |
|  | RE: 390 side oiler Question. -- R.C.V., 06/05/2001
Only the 427 unless there was some special one off engine using a 427 casting. |
| |  | RE: 390 side oiler Question. -- Ray Figueroa, 06/05/2001
Does that mean that I can use a 390 side oiler on my 427? |
| | |  | RE: 390 side oiler Question. -- Paul, 06/05/2001
There is no such thing as a 390 side-oiler, and if you have one, you've got the rarest FE engine that was never made.
It's doubtful, but there may have been some side-oiler castings used as 390's, but the side gallery wouldn't have been drilled. It IS possible that someone at some point drilled the side gallery, but I doubt it, as it's a very difficult process to drill the block that deep, without running out through the gallery wall. |
| | |  | RE: 390 side oiler Question. -- R.C.V., 06/05/2001
Are you refering to the engine block of which only the 427 had the side oiler casting, (some other FE engines had the rear bosses) or are you talking about the oil filter mount of which all were basically the same except the 427 had larger passages. |
|  | RE: 390 side oiler Question. -- John R. Barnes, 06/05/2001
There are 390 blocks that say 66 427 on the back and some have the undrilled castings for the oil gallery and relief valve on the back that are common to the side oiler. The rest of the block is standard FE. |
| |  | RE: 390 side oiler Question. -- ANT, 06/05/2001
Ray, "Sideoiler" is a name given to 427 blocks with the unique side oiling system cast in the block. Sideoiler is not a seperate part or anything like that. I think you are a little confused. |
| | |  | RE: 390 side oiler Question. -- John R. Barnes, 06/06/2001
I did not say the 390 is a side oiler. The casting parts used at Ford were used to build 390-428 engines also. I have owned two. They say 66 427 on the back of the block where the bell housing bolts and the two oil gallery and relief casting mounts are there but not drilled, the oil cavity is not on the side of the block and the block is a standard FE 390 or 428. |
| | | |  | RE: 390 side oiler Question. -- ANT, 06/06/2001
I was talking to ray. What you said is right |
| | | | |  | RE: 390 side oiler Question. -- John R. Barnes, 06/06/2001
10-4. John |
|  | RE: 390 v 427 side oiler info -- P, 06/06/2001
There are quite a few 427 blocks out there. There are the true side-oilers, which are expensive due to the long drilled passages, with side drilled taps into bearings; there are the hi po side oilers with the fully communicated crank, that acts as yet another oil gallery; there are marine 427 blocks many of which (not all) are cast as side oilers but not fully machined, so they are the "center oiler" or "top oiler" version; then there's the bastard two-bolt hydraulic cammed 427 built in small quantity for the 1968 Cougar GTE, only 358 of which were built with this detuned 390-HP version of the 427.
Now I always thought the history books said the 406 testing program was what caused Ford (according to engineer Scussel) to build a 4-bolt (cross bolted) 406 and then 427. I have heard there are a few cross bolted 390's, but these must have been built from the 427 castings or something, on a custom race-only basis by Ford or Holman Moody.
the guys are right, there's nothing you can do to a normal 390 to make it a side oiler, due to the fact that it wasn't cast as a side oiler with the appropriate bulge in the driver side of the block. Of course, there are kits to do this, for a price, but they rely on external plumbing, etc.
Ford once said, and Shelby seemed to agree, that a side-oiler in anything other than a full race machine is a waste of good machinery. For those guys, "full race" means endurance racing like Daytona, Sebring, LeMans, and NASCAR.
P |
 | 390 gt fuel line -- Brett, 06/05/2001
Im trying to find pictures , drawings or a description of the fuel line routing from the fuel pump to the carburetor(Holley 4150) for 68 mustang w/ 390 |
 | coolant tube on front of intake -- Tom, 06/04/2001
I need info on this part. My intake now has one in that has been cut flush with the intake.... I'm sure I can remove it . Has anyone dealt with this before? Can you offer me any helpful advice? such as: how to remove and where to get a new one. Thanks, Tom |
| |  | RE: coolant tube on front of intake -- Tom, 06/06/2001
Thanks Paul, I ordered what I needed. |
| | |  | Glad to help! <n/m> -- Paul, 06/06/2001
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 | '66 Galaxie FE 4 speed bellhousing -- Greg R, 06/04/2001
I want to drop a 390 and a 4 speed into my '66 Galaxie. I know '65-'68 FE bellhousings will work but what about others? Would one out of a Fairlane work? Thanks. |
|  | RE: '66 Galaxie FE 4 speed bellhousing -- Greg R, 06/04/2001
Oops, should have read '65-'68 Galaxie FE bellhousings. |
|  | RE: '66 Galaxie FE 4 speed bellhousing -- John R. Barnes, 06/05/2001
The clutch mounts differently on a Galaxie so you need a bell housing with the ball mount for the clutch shaft on it. |
 | Tachometer connection -- Gilles B, 06/04/2001
Hi Forum members: I have prepped a Cougar XR7 dashboard to replace my 390 GT Cougar standard dashboard. Now having a tach. dial, do I splice the 1968 GT 16A red green stripe wire from ign. switch wire to feed and exit the tach dial? I updated the original distributor with a later electronic FE distributor which has worked very well for last four years. Regards, Gilles |
|  | RE: Tachometer connection -- HighSpeed, 06/04/2001
I do not think your tack will work with the electronic ignition. Since the factory tach works off of the power wire to the coil, I have been told that the factory tachs only work with point type ignitions. Although I think the Pertronix ignition system will operate the factory tach.
Wait and see what others post. |
|  | RE: Tachometer connection -- Will, 06/05/2001
I have a 67 Mustang Standard wiring harnass with a 67 Tach dash. The tach works off of the signal to the positive side of the coil. The voltage goes through the tach to the coil.
My tach works fine with points + stock coil or stock dist with Pertronix and Pertronix coil. It worked with a Mallory Unilite (elect ignition) dist with the stock coil, but it didn't work with a Mallory ignition box. That's because the CD boxes get their power directly from the battery/alternator, so there's no signal in the hot wires under the dash.
Oh yeah, I originally got a used wiring harnass for the tach dash, but the connections were all crappy so I bought a new harnass - only they don't make 'em for tach cars. I found the hot wire (it's the one with the long resistor wire I think), and I spliced two connectors into it. It's not too hard to find in the wiring diagram. Worked like a charm. |
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