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I sometimes wonder if the deviation was actually just a writer mis-remembering the "cast iron" crankshaft change.

By Dave Shoe - 06/09/2001 1:37:29 AM; IP 216.243.158.141

Writers are writers. They are not necessarily any more factual than an advertisement. George Reid is a perfect example.

I've heard about the 2-bolt main rumor since I heard of the 427 Cougar. I sometimes wonder if it wasn't originated by a confused writer who mistakenly mixed-up the new cast iron crank with a phantom 2-bolt maincap. The confusion would be logical, as maincaps and cranks are pretty much one-and-the-same in a racing FE.

As for the UAW killing the 427, there's nothing to support that because the W-code 427 was offered as a 1969 option until the SCJ brainstorm was hatched in the 25th hour.

Emissions laws and limited performance budgets forced the 4-speed outta the 427 in 1968 (it's cheaper to certify only one engine than two), and production costs (casting and machining) made the 427 a tough block to stick into any car. The SCJ was promoted into the place of the emissions-laden 427 in 1969, requiring only a set of heavy rods and quickly-designed super-cheap cast piston which would hold together at high-RPMS (a piston which would also be inherited by the CJ when they became available).

The reason 427s and 428s became popular industrial blocks in the late 60's and early/mid 70s is because the 413 Chrysler was romping reliably in this territory and Ford wanted a piece of the action. The Chrysler powerplant, however, was specifically designed to handle the power take-off duties, as it had a forged steel crank and it's snout was supported by a ball bearing in the timing cover when needed. Apparently, FE crankshafts just didn't fare as well against the Chrysler offerings.

JMO,
Shoe.

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1968 "W" 427 (4V) 2-bolt Cougar GT-E?? -- P, 06/08/2001

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RE: 1968 "W" 427 (4V) 2-bolt Cougar GT-E?? -- Dave Shoe, 06/08/2001

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RE: 1968 "W" 427 (4V) 2-bolt Cougar GT-E?? -- Mike McQuesten, 06/09/2001

Collapse <b>I sometimes wonder if the deviation was actually just a writer mis-remembering the "cast iron" crankshaft change.</b> -- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>06/09/2001</i></font>

I sometimes wonder if the deviation was actually just a writer mis-remembering the "cast iron" crankshaft change. -- Dave Shoe, 06/09/2001

Hey guys, why not ask an expert? Go to this guy.. -- Styleline, 58, 06/09/2001

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RE: UAW not blamed -- Mike McQuesten, 06/10/2001

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6769&Reply=6726><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor6769" onclick="return false;">You've got some neat info there.</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>06/10/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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You've got some neat info there. -- Dave Shoe, 06/10/2001

RE: Found some stuff -- Mike McQuesten, 06/11/2001

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RE: You've got some neat info there. -- Kevin Marti, 06/11/2001

All year? Interesting. Thanks for the great info, Kevin. :-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/11/2001

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Attn: Mike McQuesten -- Jeff H., 06/10/2001

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RE: Lime Gold! -- Mike McQuesten, 06/11/2001

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RE: Lime Gold! -- Jeff H., 06/11/2001

Very cool story, guys. I really enjoy the 'personal' angles. :-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/11/2001

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6789&Reply=6726><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor6789" onclick="return false;">RE: UAW not blamed</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>marty vogler, <i>06/11/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: UAW not blamed -- marty vogler, 06/11/2001

You haven't bought it yet? Get on it! ;-) [n/m] -- Paul M, 06/11/2001

Info on that Mustang is welcome. Meanwhile, I don't believe it. [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/11/2001

RE: W-code '68? -- Mike McQuesten, 06/11/2001

W code Mustang -- Tim B, 06/12/2001

RE: 1968 "W" 427 (4V) 2-bolt Cougar GT-E?? -- P, 06/11/2001

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6755&Reply=6726><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor6755" onclick="return false;">2-bolt, 4-bolt, 6-bolt, a dollar; screw-ups make me want to holler...</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>06/09/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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2-bolt, 4-bolt, 6-bolt, a dollar; screw-ups make me want to holler... -- Mr F, 06/09/2001

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6796&Reply=6726><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor6796" onclick="return false;">....mea culpa??</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>P, <i>06/11/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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....mea culpa?? -- P, 06/11/2001

$Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6801&Reply=6726><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor6801" onclick="return false;">I was referring to _my_ typo on the 'W' page.[n/m]</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>06/11/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6801', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6801') }); </script>$

I was referring to _my_ typo on the 'W' page.[n/m] -- Mr F, 06/11/2001

"some blocks" (typo) -- P, 06/12/2001