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RE: UAW not blamed

By Mike McQuesten - 06/10/2001 12:12:49 AM; IP 63.50.107.87

One thing I want to make very clear is that I did not in any way blame the UAW for the death of the 427 powered uni-bodys. I don't want to get into politics but I am a card carrying teamster and I believe the union had grounds for that strike in '67. I was only 18 at the time and I didn't blame 'em then. All I remember is that the strike delayed delivery on FE powered 'stangs for a little while. I was chompin' at the bit to drive a new big block pony to compare it to my '66 GTA. BTW, I was not impressed when I finally got the opportunity. I was never beaten by a '67/'68 390 GT/GTA Mustang. I was thouroughly trounced by Jerry Pruitt's (Yakima, WA) '69 Mach, SCJ w/3.91s demonstrator.
So Shoe are you saying that the 427 GTE Cougars were built throughout '68? I'm stating my opinion here based on memory from "those good ol'days". I read everything I could and followed every piece of news on Ford High Performance in them thar years through '72 when more pressing obligations started to take over. I thought the 427 was dropped completely as an option in anything by November, '67. The Coug GTE was very hard to get. I "know" of no '68 Mustangs/Torinos that were ever built with the 390 horse 427. I'm not talking about prototypes. Anyone know of any, anywhere that were ever tested? Also I remember that Ford wasn't building the W-code 427 with 4 speed option because of warranty problems that would result from the unibody's structure and suspension not being up to the torque shock that the 427 would provide. I'm not making that up! I might have to dig through old mags for a few hours but it was a big point late in '67 with the announcement of the 427. We were pissed! Why no stick?! It was embarassing. GM/Mopar had no such ridiculous limitations. But Ford had not yet engineered the staggered shocks for stick cars ala late '68, etc. Also the improved tracLok/31 spline axles weren't available either. Maybe the 31 splines were with the W-code. I mean a 390 4 speed Mustang/Fairlane wound the leaf springs up for major hop. Just imagine what the torque of that 390 horse 427 would do to a stock leaf springed uni-body? One thing I do remember reading was about the awesome street power/torque that hydraulic '27 put to the pavement.

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1968 "W" 427 (4V) 2-bolt Cougar GT-E?? -- P, 06/08/2001

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RE: 1968 "W" 427 (4V) 2-bolt Cougar GT-E?? -- Dave Shoe, 06/08/2001

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RE: 1968 "W" 427 (4V) 2-bolt Cougar GT-E?? -- Mike McQuesten, 06/09/2001

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6744&Reply=6726><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor6744" onclick="return false;">I sometimes wonder if the deviation was actually just a writer mis-remembering the "cast iron" crankshaft change.</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>06/09/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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I sometimes wonder if the deviation was actually just a writer mis-remembering the "cast iron" crankshaft change. -- Dave Shoe, 06/09/2001

Hey guys, why not ask an expert? Go to this guy.. -- Styleline, 58, 06/09/2001

Collapse <b>RE: UAW not blamed</b> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQuesten, <i>06/10/2001</i></font>

RE: UAW not blamed -- Mike McQuesten, 06/10/2001

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6769&Reply=6726><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor6769" onclick="return false;">You've got some neat info there.</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Dave Shoe, <i>06/10/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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You've got some neat info there. -- Dave Shoe, 06/10/2001

RE: Found some stuff -- Mike McQuesten, 06/11/2001

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6784&Reply=6726><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor6784" onclick="return false;">RE: You've got some neat info there.</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Kevin Marti, <i>06/11/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: You've got some neat info there. -- Kevin Marti, 06/11/2001

All year? Interesting. Thanks for the great info, Kevin. :-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/11/2001

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Attn: Mike McQuesten -- Jeff H., 06/10/2001

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6778&Reply=6726><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor6778" onclick="return false;">RE: Lime Gold!</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mike McQuesten, <i>06/11/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: Lime Gold! -- Mike McQuesten, 06/11/2001

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RE: Lime Gold! -- Jeff H., 06/11/2001

Very cool story, guys. I really enjoy the 'personal' angles. :-) [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/11/2001

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6789&Reply=6726><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor6789" onclick="return false;">RE: UAW not blamed</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>marty vogler, <i>06/11/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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RE: UAW not blamed -- marty vogler, 06/11/2001

You haven't bought it yet? Get on it! ;-) [n/m] -- Paul M, 06/11/2001

Info on that Mustang is welcome. Meanwhile, I don't believe it. [n/m] -- Mr F, 06/11/2001

RE: W-code '68? -- Mike McQuesten, 06/11/2001

W code Mustang -- Tim B, 06/12/2001

RE: 1968 "W" 427 (4V) 2-bolt Cougar GT-E?? -- P, 06/11/2001

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6755&Reply=6726><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor6755" onclick="return false;">2-bolt, 4-bolt, 6-bolt, a dollar; screw-ups make me want to holler...</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>06/09/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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2-bolt, 4-bolt, 6-bolt, a dollar; screw-ups make me want to holler... -- Mr F, 06/09/2001

Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6796&Reply=6726><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor6796" onclick="return false;">....mea culpa??</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>P, <i>06/11/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript">
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....mea culpa?? -- P, 06/11/2001

$Collapse <a href=../ForumFE/reply.aspx?ID=6801&Reply=6726><img src=../images/reply.png width=30 height=10></a> <a href="#" id="anchor6801" onclick="return false;">I was referring to _my_ typo on the 'W' page.[n/m]</a> -- <font color=#0000ff>Mr F, <i>06/11/2001</i></font><script type="text/javascript"> new HelpBalloon({ dataURL: 'replyb.aspx?ID=6801', contentMargin: 60, icon: $('anchor6801') }); </script>$

I was referring to _my_ typo on the 'W' page.[n/m] -- Mr F, 06/11/2001

"some blocks" (typo) -- P, 06/12/2001